Doug Brown: Hi, I'm Doug Brown. I'm here at Dr. Shanthala, MD's office, and I'm here to have a procedure for something that most men or most people don't even understand, which is called Peyronie's disease.
Peyronie's is a condition that happens over time for most men, and quite frankly it's a little embarrassing. But it's where the penis actually starts to have a curvature to it, and it happens gradually over time. And many men are embarrassed by it and many men don't understand what it's all about because it's happening and they're trying to figure out, well, why is this happening to me? That's what was happening, as well, to myself.
And so I was seeking out multiple treatments, and, frankly, there wasn't a lot that I could find online, at the time. And then I would find things of, you know, magic potions and magic pills, and those wouldn't work, and different types of contraptions that people wanted to sell.
I eventually decided that I was going to just take the medical route, and so I went and had a couple of injections of what they call Xiaflex, and Xiaflex is kind of an enzyme that eats away. What happens is plaque gets underneath the skin. It's due to either an injury or sometimes an allergic reaction, it's really kind of what the medical community calls idiopathic. It's really not a cause that somebody really understands why this happens.
And it's been interesting to me because, you know, now that I've had the issue and I've talked to other people, and they now know they have the issue, but they didn't even know what it was, so as I was progressing through this process with the Xiaflex, I actually got some results.
The Xiaflex are a series of injections. However, they're very, very costly. Too little vials of medication are actually $9,000 from the pharmacy, and so I had a couple of those, but then the insurance wouldn't support it any longer. So I was looking for other alternatives, because even though I got some results from it, I wanted more of a natural type of process. Because while I went through those, I had things called hematoma, which is where the blood vessels sort of burst with inside the skin, or it felt like that anyways, and things would swell. And it was very painful.
Anyways, I'm here because I went through what is called the P-shot. And the P-shot is a process where they use your own natural blood and what they call PRP, I believe it's called, and what that does is it goes in and it actually does a similar thing that the Xiaflex does. However, it's not a series of multiple injections that you have to go through, and there's no adverse reaction to it.
So I had one done already, and immediately I started noticing a vast change, and for the positive. So, where the curve was still a good sized curve, it started straightening out immediately on all angles. And so it's been very successful for me, and so I'm back to have another one, because I got better results this time, the first time, and I want to have better results the second time.
So the good thing about the PRP and the P-shot versus the Xiaflex, for myself, was not only do you not have to have insurance get involved, but number two, it's very quick. So the time recovery on the P-shot versus the Xiaflex shot, the recovery time was instantaneous. Really, that day. It wasn't painful after that. It was very straightforward.
But with the Xiaflex, you do it in one day and then you got to wait a couple of days and you go back again, and they're constantly ... I'll just, for the lack of better terms, using an invasive type of process, and so there is a week to four week recovery time. And what I noticed with the P-shot was the recovery time was instantaneous. I was recovered that day, and back to normal function.
And so, you know, I'm here to talk about this because most men, frankly, they don't want to talk about it. It's kind of embarrassing to them. And, you know, this happens to a lot more men than people know.
So I'm here to answer a series of questions as well, so there may be some questions thrown to me at this point.
Speaker 2: Well, Doug, thank you very much for talking. I appreciate it. Very well said. I was just wondering, does this hurt? Do you have any pain when you're having the procedure done?
Doug Brown: No, I mean, because they're numbing up the area, you do feel a slight pinch when the needle is inserted, but it's not painful. At least it wasn't for me. And I don't think it's anything worse than what I would consider maybe a mosquito bite or a bite like that.
And then once the pinch is gone, I didn't feel a thing, honestly.
Speaker 2: How many shots do you think would be optimal to get the results that you desire?
Doug Brown: Well, I think it depends on the person's condition. You know, I've talked to men who have slight curvature, and unfortunately, the more curvature that one has, then it's a challenge with all kinds of function, whether it's sexual function or also urinary function as well. I was running into that in the beginning. And that's one of the reasons I just said ... you know, I didn't know about the P-shot before, so I just went to the Xiaflex 'cause that was the only thing that medical doctors who are traditionalists would recommend.
So, you know, I got results in my first P-shot, so for me, I'm back because I want more results, but I noticed an immediate straightening and I noticed an immediate ... I used to have an indenture on both sides where the curvature was happening, and they both went away within an hour. You know, I was like, wow, what happened. And now, the reason I'm back is because over time the indenture on the left is completely gone and the one on the right is slightly back, so I want to get rid of that as well.
The other thing that I noticed immediately, I noticed a size increase immediately. So length and girth, width, as well. So, you know, for me, it was pretty immediate. But I think most men probably should look, you know, between one and four treatments, probably on average, to make it work out right.
And the reality is, when you compare it against the other, even with co-pays on insurance, what I have found is this is much more economical, and the recovery time ... I mean, the second Xiaflex shot I had, I mean, it took me about four weeks to recover. So, and you know, it was painful for about two weeks.
Speaker 2: Did you feel that you had your privacy respected when you came into the office?
Doug Brown: Here?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
Doug Brown: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they're ... you know, I'm kind of a, like, you know, I'm not really that modest anyways. Probably one of the reasons I'd be willing to do this and that. But I do understand that many men, you know, in different professions, and I sort of have a public persona profession so to do this is actually a stretch for me, but I think it's so important that, you know, a lot of men, or a lot of guys out there, they're suffering with this condition and, you know, it's affecting their whole life. It was affecting my whole life. And I think that the privacy here was respected as well as anywhere I've ever been. In fact, better so.
What I got here is, you know, in the other medical community, because they're dealing with insurance companies and they're running people through the mill and they've got such a high overhead on a lot of things, there wasn't, I would say, that personalization that I got here, by any means.
You know, sometimes I would have to wait an hour to get in for the procedure on the other place, or, you know, a couple of times the doctor was so busy because they were out on call all night long, they were sleeping, they couldn't even get back to the office, so I had to go back a couple of times. And it was and hour drive for me, because there's not a lot of people who actually do this type of treatment, and so, you know, certainly, it's more far and few between.
So when I found this, and I found it in my local area, I was like, you know what, I'm going to give it a shot, and I'm very grateful I did.